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Post by (a♥‿♥a) podz on Feb 5, 2011 21:11:45 GMT -5
Every so often I will change the debate topic and once I have I will decide which side has won depending on their arguement. You may only choose one side, and you cannot switch during the arguement. You must stick to your side.
TOPIC:
Homework is an amazing thing to have. Does detention actually serve a purpose?
BEGIN DEBATING!
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Post by NOPE on Feb 5, 2011 21:13:22 GMT -5
It can be troublesome, but it ultimately helps you retain information.
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Post by Sp❣rit on Feb 5, 2011 21:31:13 GMT -5
Homework gives one the kind of repetition that can ultimately help one with tests, and can help for a better grade overall.
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Post by shirochigo on Feb 5, 2011 21:40:17 GMT -5
Without homework, it's drastically more difficult to learn as you'll have to read chapters in a large textbook rather than use sheets of summarized information to study.
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Post by rosemairy on Feb 5, 2011 21:45:42 GMT -5
(people, this is not much of a debate if no one is arguing against homework...)
Sometimes teacher gives you too much hw, especially those that are never appear on the test.
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Post by freeziepop on Feb 5, 2011 21:48:17 GMT -5
I disagree-- I did little to no homework in school but still managed to get at least a B on every test.
Homework frustrated me, it took extra time, it was boring and I already had been doing most of what they assigned for years and years. I felt it unnecessary for me to do it because my classmates were stupid and the curriculum at my school was pretty horrible.
I actually prefer reading/skimming textbooks for information and taking notes on my own, of my own volition, than filling out sheets upon sheets of shit that might not even be on the test.
I understand the repetition is great, etc etc but when you're so buried in useless crap that you'll never use again or even think of for 40 hours a week, it just makes me ask what the point is.
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Post by Sp❣rit on Feb 6, 2011 14:45:22 GMT -5
Rose; if we all end up agreeing, it isn't a big deal. XD We just need a new subject.
That being said, I'll give this another go...?
"Homework is an amazing thing to have" is an opinion. It would be like saying:
Person 1: I like frogs. Person 2: I ARGUE THAT.
In high school, the homework assignments actually are forced onto the students, and at the most, can probably just manage to bump you up a letter grade. The short due dates they give you in this level of education is crap too, considering you have the same classes every day.
On its own, homework doesn't stand as the best way to study. Plus, to those with busy schedules and club activities, it can cause more stress on pre-college level students.
But I'm in college, and I don't get homework all of the time. The grades focus primarily on the tests, and in classes that are about 200 students and more, interacting with the teacher after class is a hassle. With homework, I find it easier to figure out what I need to work on in order to prepare for what is on a test. Plus, if I totally bomb the said test, the homework grade can keep me going if I do well on that.
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Post by arionne ♥ on Feb 6, 2011 15:04:37 GMT -5
I say it depends on the classes. In mathematics and physics, it's all about knowing how to solve problems and so homework is much more important. In other subjects that is more theory-based, such as biology and languages, it's not that important. It really depends on how it is assigned, how much, and how anal the teacher can be.
Ultimately, I like doing homework if it is relevant and if it will help. Without it, it is much easier to understand how to approach certain problems and what to do in situation X. Only in the subjects where that is important. Otherwise, if the homework is just checking for concepts, it isn't nearly as useful.
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Post by (a♥‿♥a) podz on Feb 6, 2011 15:09:07 GMT -5
Ok. This seems to be a better topic. {Does detention actually serve a purpose?}
In my opinion, I think that detention really has no punishment. They say that it stops people from being bad, but does it? At first it is like "Oh no I have detention," but the more you get it you get used to it. Then there is the fact that sometimes, or most of the time, there is nothing to do at lunch! Then it's cold outsider and your not allowed inside the building {in my school anyways} so detention really only gets you inside and out of the cold.
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Post by Digizel on Feb 6, 2011 15:24:22 GMT -5
...Really? All of my schools had Detention after school, and you'd have to stay after. I'd say it is a good minor punishment for kids if it's done like this. It reduces the amount of free time a kid can have by forcing them to stay and do...just about nothing and be bored. While it could be argued that Detention would be a good place to finish any Homework, it's more of a time waster. Above that, it makes it very difficult to arrange for drivers. This is bound to get parents mad (that is, for younger kids who can't drive). So Detention also leads to trouble at home as well. Especially if you're at a school that calls your parents for every little thing that goes wrong.... *kicks Crestview High School building* I get two Detentions all year long and I get in trouble for it.
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Post by DR-@@GON on Feb 6, 2011 16:04:16 GMT -5
I say detention is stupid. One of the problems school has is that it uses up a lot of students' time, both during and after school. (homework). Giving kids detention merely adds to the amount of time wasted. Not only that, but it screws up both student and parent schedules. In addition, if Saturday school counts, I am completely against it. Weekends are for student resting time. Having detention on the weekend only serves to cause stress for both teachers and students.
It's also far too easy to get detention, even if you're a do-gooder. In my experience, merely forgetting a piece of schoolwork or PE clothes merits a detention or Saturday school. Fortunately, I've never experienced the latter, but I've gotten detention twice during the school year, and wasting fifty minutes of my life each time when I could've been doing something productive was pretty useless. I didn't learn anything from it.
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Post by Digizel on Feb 6, 2011 16:10:54 GMT -5
Well the point of Detention is to try to get students into the habit of following the school's rules completely and thoroughly. Though I will admit that your school (or at least your teachers) are VERY strict on their Detentions and I agree that that's no reason to give Detention.
As for the kids that actually deserve Detention (for, say, disrespecting a teacher or something). And no, I don't think Saturday School counts as Detention. If the student does not want to waste time by staying after school, then they merely have to stop breaking rules. (Of course, that doesn't really apply to those like you, as you say, who don't really deserve a Detention, but more of a verbal warning).
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Post by (a♥‿♥a) podz on Feb 6, 2011 16:18:37 GMT -5
But Saturday school. How would it work. You could just not go, then what would happen? What would be the outcome of not going to your Saturday school detention? Would you just get another one?
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Post by Sp❣rit on Feb 6, 2011 16:25:46 GMT -5
As someone that hasn't been in these situations, I'd rather ask questions to promote the detention debate.
Do schools have the option to discuss which times the said detentions would be student friendly?
Are there better methods of punishment, that could also promote a learning experience?
What about just talking to the student, and explaining why it isn't ok? When people are 'left off with a warning', is their normal explanation ever good enough to reach the students?
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Post by (a♥‿♥a) podz on Feb 6, 2011 18:24:54 GMT -5
Do schools have the option to discuss which times the said detentions would be student friendly? In my school we have two different detentions. If you do anything wrong, it is lunchtime detention. Then {since I go to an all irish speaking school}, if you speak English you must stay for an extra class Friday. Both are not flexible. If you don't appear for the English speaking detention you have a week of lunch detentions. In the English speaking detention you have to write a load of verbs though {covers your second question} which helps your irish grammer. But you get the detention for speaking one word of English.
Are there better methods of punishment, that could also promote a learning experience? WE HAVE TO WRITE IRISH VERBS FOR SPEAKING ENGLISH FOR 35MINUTES! But thankfully I have never been in that situation.
What about just talking to the student, and explaining why it isn't ok? When people are 'left off with a warning', is their normal explanation ever good enough to reach the students? When you are left with a warning you think you can do it again and again, but since detention isn't a punishment, people don't mind getting it to be honest. It's stupid. Talking to the student would be time consuming and it could take a bit of time if you were to speak to them individually.
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