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Post by NOPE on Mar 4, 2011 22:29:15 GMT -5
So, I kinda realized that later on in the routes some pokemon would have issues regarding moves that they learned earlier but now lack. For example, the current level up system allows evolving pokemon to take all of the base moves they have. What about moves they missed that aren't base moves? For a concrete example, my petilil will evolve at 28, but it'll miss out on Teeter Dance. It isn't a base move, but is instead learned at level 10. Therefore, I propose the following system for relearning moves.
Have heart scales act as a currency for move relearning. One heart scale is one relearned move. Have the heart scale be purchasable either by PD or Shards take your pick. Have a the move re learner in either the Shasta Ruins or the Shop depending on if its PD or shards.
Opinions?
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Post by Sp❣rit on Mar 4, 2011 22:30:06 GMT -5
I like this idea. You wouldn't think it would have much use because herpderp everyone is on route 1, but as you go on later in the routes, you miss out on certain attacks with the 8 move limit. People are moving up, slowly but surely, and they will want to know about these kind of options eventually.
Attacks that aren't --- moves. I mean, those can just be slapped on when they evolve. But the others? A mod gives you those attacks, and you can only move up.
I'd either suggest 15 shards for a heart scale, or 5k. I mean, you wouldn't use it a lot, so I don't think it would have to be expensive either. But its still a nice option to have.
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Post by tomackze on Mar 4, 2011 22:49:00 GMT -5
I agree with this 100% of the way because of two simple reasons...
1. It fixes our current problems with "happiness" or "beauty" evolution. Because we set it at level 15, pokemon will most likely lose moves when they evolve. Like Milotic loses Water Pulse and Refresh, two of it's most essential moves...
So far we ignore this and just allow the Milotic to keep those. But this thing would fix that and have you pay to get those moves. I like that idea a lot.
2. As Jub said and Spirit said. As you move on, the routes get tougher and the pokemon get stronger. You might want a pokemon that it "forgot" (mod didn't give you the move). So that is where it becomes very important...
Tomackze gives 100% backing to this suggestion
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Post by arionne ♥ on Mar 4, 2011 23:02:29 GMT -5
The heart scale or whatever seems fine, but only one currency. If we put it as shards, it would be lumped with TMs Or else it's just another item (that some people still have from valentines promo, teehee)
Do we want an actual move relearner? Maybe have him be a bum at the cafe, and you can find him there, drinking coffee. All the time. Or at the Rest Area in the trainer lounge.
Alternatively, we can just ignore it, like what we do with milotic, and say that you can just add all of those moves that you might have 'missed out'. Cheaper, easier, and it's already being done. herpyderp.
A bit like the genders. If you want to do it discretely, that's fine.
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Post by NOPE on Mar 4, 2011 23:10:00 GMT -5
A cool composite idea. Why not use a permutation of the original idea and part of Ari's idea? We could have some random hobo that you pay 5k to relearn a move from. That way no one has to keep up with heart scales, and it isn't as abusable as the 2nd option.
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Post by zacariah on Mar 5, 2011 2:29:15 GMT -5
trololol make the dude just wander around with the caravan of scammers from that other idea
-ahem- I don't care too much either way, though if mods are willing to allow us to just discreetly do it free why resist? :'D Though the prices aren't that bad so w/e! XD Just think its silly we want to pay for something free~ whatever happened to people doing things for others from the goodness of their hearts? xD Greedy npcs...
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Post by Black Ranger Talis on Mar 5, 2011 5:25:37 GMT -5
I'd love to RP him eating the Heart Scales >.>
But yes. I do like this idea, and 15 shards sounds like a decent price since people won't be herping around and relearning moves for every situation. I'm all for it.
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Post by (a♥‿♥a) podz on Mar 5, 2011 8:33:27 GMT -5
ARI HAS BEEN BENDING THE RULES AND GIVING HER POKEMON SEX CHANGES?! Who said that?!
Anyways, I'm all for it. But I would much rather pay in cash that shards/scales.
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Post by arionne ♥ on Mar 5, 2011 10:53:29 GMT -5
sex change is allowed if you really really want. only for those where gender doesn't matter
but I'd rather it be cash, rather than shards, if we make 'em pay.
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Post by NOPE on Mar 5, 2011 12:32:47 GMT -5
Then how about my 2nd composite idea? We don't even have to have heart scales that way. Unless you just WANT heart scales, then just sell them in the shop.
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Post by tomackze on Mar 5, 2011 14:14:50 GMT -5
If we are doing $$$ we can make it like the move tutor in the Articuno Vision. You give them, say, $5000 PD and they'll help you relearn the move. Because there is little to no need for scales if we can just get it by paying $$. That isn't really needed.
Unless we will have rules for scales, like have it as a transfer type thing where you can only use it once a week (and you have to document). But that isn't too important either...
I vote just $$$, no heart scale in this case
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